My Aunt is a Quaker, and I think their definition of " pacifist" is, that by dong any act of harm to another person, you are really hurting yourself. I should mention we don't have many " quackers" in the world. ( I mean Quakers)
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JWs and Pacifism
by pale.emperor inpacifismˈpasɪfɪz(ə)mnoun: pacifismthe belief that war and violence are unjustifiable and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means.. .
one thing that always irked me as a witness was their pacifism.
i totally agree that non violence is a wonderful way to live, but at the same time whenever i'd read or watch something about nazi germany i always thought being a pacifist in that environment wouldn't work.
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Breaking News, London: Van Ploughs into Pedestrians
by Simon in3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
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The Rebel
Simon " Does anybody fall for this shit anymore?"
Of course sometimes there's a reason to have a " real" quarrel, but sometimes their is just plan blikerning. ( yes I know it's bickering not blickernng, but that's my point, " same" words and statements just need to be corrected)
Simon if as you say that was " A fake " Muslim" protest then those "Muslims"staging " that " fake " Muslim" protest didn't believe in what they were protesting. Are you are saying they were :-
a) Bullshiters
B) Actors
C) something I need enlightenment on.
I am confused.
Do you have any evidence to support your statement " Does anyone fall for this shit anymore?
p.s if I was C.N.N staging that news report, I would have had a Muslim police officer not two black police officers in attendance.
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Bret Weinstein: Evergreen State College Racism Controversy
by Simon ingreat discussion, well worth watching.
covers racism, the bubble that some people live in vs the reality that resulted in trumps election and more (and jws get a mention too).. the rubin report (and many of the guests he has on) repeatedly knock it out of the park with sensible, calm and important analysis and commentary on important issues to our society.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-feapcgxnyy.
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The Rebel
My name is " Mike" I am an ex "J.W" I use the name " The Rebel"
Thats who I am. And i hope my contribution on this site helps those leaving or escaping the J.W organisation.
As for "Bret Weinstein"...well ....I thnk sometimes when we leave the " universe" we explore the " world" and then we come down to " earth". Then we discover the " universe" we lived in was a lie. Sadly. Also it takes years to build a new life, and close the door on the past.
So my advice is if like me, you like football, watch the " Champions League" final tonight( Juventos V Real Madrid) and be grateful you have escaped going to tomorrow's Sunday meetings. Be " SELFISH" enjoy life. Why the hell should you care who the hell "Bret Weinstein" is?
Thats not to say I don't respect, those that have left years ago. In fact, believe me,with these " old timers" ex-JWs we can have "mature" "meaningful" and "adult" conversations. I just think these more "mature" thinkers have come from the healed, and can therefore talk about things I don't understand.
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How Do You Get Most of Your News?
by minimus ini read that many people get their news from facebook.
i look online mostly at fox news and the drudge report.
very seldom do i look at cnn.😎.
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The Rebel
Q) How do I get most of my news?
A) Rummers and innuendos.
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Christian Church Destroyed by ISIS Rebuilt by Muslim Residents
by cofty inmuslims in mosul have helped rebuild a christian church that had been destroyed by isis.. iraq has one of the smallest, but oldest, christian communities in the world but isis oversaw the destruction of iraqi churches, books and christian spaces during their occupation of the city..... it's heartening to see both the military defeat of isis in mosul and the desire for normal relationships shown by the inter-faith community.. there is hope..
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The Rebel
Konceptual99 " " Of course. They were doing what they thought was good but there are a whole bunch of fundamentalists who would class them as apostates............"
The Rebel :- I agreee, totally, but I also believe, an army of fundamentalists, will never win and wipe out every bit of goodness in the heart of all its " members" , what ever the religion.( And if that's not the case, how do places like this exist?)
And I believe this because, I believe most people don't want to wipe each other out, regardless of their religion. That's not to say I didn't once look forward to Armageddon :-(
But I think, with intergration and the mixing of cultures we have an opportunity to beat fundermentalist control...for me that's personally a more palatable way to go.
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Talk to my Dad about beards.
by LovingLifeNow inso i spoke to my elder dad the other day, and he asked if i still am sporting a beard.
i said yes, then i said, "i thought the society said its ok to have a neat trimmed beard now?
" he said "no, no, no..if you read the article , it says in countries where it is accepted" so my response was "ummm, its pretty accepted here in america"..which he says "it reflects your spirituality" "if another wittness saw you, they would know you are weak"...i was like, "ok, i don't get it, and i follow christ/god, not men..." then he said in his hall" if a brother came in with a beard , he would not have privelages" then i just gave up, and tried to change the subject..ugggggggggg if these people would just listen to themselves , they would see the sillyness of there teachings...
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The Rebel
I hope I am not being rude here, that is not my intention. But I have noted many of my friends who have beards, do so to compensate for being bald. Now one of my friends who has lost his hair, doesn't do this. He has chosen to wear a wig.
As he is on the hunt for an " awesome" woman, do you think I should respectfully tell him :-
a) Get a better quality wig.
b) Give up on the wig, and grow a beard.
c) Just be himself.
Actually ...if I had this guys facial features, I would gladly swap my hair and be bald.
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Christian Church Destroyed by ISIS Rebuilt by Muslim Residents
by cofty inmuslims in mosul have helped rebuild a christian church that had been destroyed by isis.. iraq has one of the smallest, but oldest, christian communities in the world but isis oversaw the destruction of iraqi churches, books and christian spaces during their occupation of the city..... it's heartening to see both the military defeat of isis in mosul and the desire for normal relationships shown by the inter-faith community.. there is hope..
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Knoceptual99 " This is not about these people being "good" Muslims, but in reality, "bad" Muslims. Good for them.
The Rebel :- Whilst I agree with your sentiments, the crux, of the matter, is by doing what they did these Muslims, I am sure felt they were being "good " Muslims.
I think this is an important point, because I am sure if they felt they were being " bad" Muslims they wouldn't have done what they did?
When I was a Jehovers Witness I was incapable of shunning. I was called on it a couple of times by the elders, but I never could shun. It was like I was being told this person must be treated worse than an insect.
Not all people are in humun, and even if the religion is wrotten to the core, as long as "good"people exist in that religion, their is hope for reform.
I hope this post, doesn't come across as though I am playing with words. Actually my favorite bible story was always " The Good Samaritan" and Samaritans didn't believe in God. For me now regardless of what we believe, if we are " Good Samaritans" your ok with me.
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Christian Church Destroyed by ISIS Rebuilt by Muslim Residents
by cofty inmuslims in mosul have helped rebuild a christian church that had been destroyed by isis.. iraq has one of the smallest, but oldest, christian communities in the world but isis oversaw the destruction of iraqi churches, books and christian spaces during their occupation of the city..... it's heartening to see both the military defeat of isis in mosul and the desire for normal relationships shown by the inter-faith community.. there is hope..
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The Rebel
That article is all about " peacefully coexisting"
Why should it be otherwise?
Would any of us ever say to someone " your father was an alcoholic, and your whole family is dysfunctional. Therefore you are defective and abnormal?" It's absurd. So isn't it wonderful when people take a more " sober" view, in the inner faith community. Particularly when these people do more than simply " peacefully coexist" . They also become proactive in the community, thus demonstrating what " peacefully coexisting" in a multi culture society requires.
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The Rebel
Thanks for the spelling education, Shirley.:-)
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why does no one ask questions ?
by midnight ini always felt bad for asking questions , did anyone else ?
what question did you ask or want to ask but feel it was wrong ?
mine was regarding the circuit assembly and the amount defecit anounced .. also 1975 i got a stern reply too when i was studying in the 90,s.
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The Rebel
O.P. " Why does no one ask questions?
My guess is that questions exist, but the answers to those " questions" have terrible consequences on both sides.